"i86hotdogs" (i86hotdogs)
08/13/2020 at 06:10 • Filed to: None
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"i86hotdogs" (i86hotdogs)
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Delicious buffer.
Dan Ryan (interstate 90/94) is the busiest road in Illinois, and according to this article, officials are working with demonstrators to shut down a part of the busiest road in the state to protest police brutality.
I am all for protesting and marching, but I don’t understand the major highway necessity. I could be completely wrong, and major highways were used in history. Marching on side streets (even major ones like Michigan Ave) is completely different, and detours are easily accessible. This is expected to take place around 47th street on t he south side, so exiting the interstate to go around this will take you through a not so friendly neighborhood.
It already takes double the time it should to drive through the city on Dan Ryan. I drove through this interstate last weekend to visit the folks (and got some Portillos). Regardless of the time of day, there is crawling traffic somewhere. My mom has been taking this interstate to and from work every day for 40+ years; 15 miles as the crow flies, but she has never taken less than an hour to commute. Not just for the commuters, but trucks and cargo will be affected by this.
Again, I support peaceful protesting for injustices. I don’t like the use of a very busy interstate.
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farscythe - makin da cawfee!
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 06:13 |
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well...if your protest isnt bothering anyone...nobody pays attention to it
pip bip - choose Corrour
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 06:16 |
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ours is rising too
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i86hotdogs
> farscythe - makin da cawfee!
08/13/2020 at 06:17 |
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Is that the intention of a protest? To bother other people? I always thought it was to bring awareness of the severity of the topic one is protesting for.
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 06:19 |
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The concept of “a state-sanctioned protest” is a funny one. If we only have protests the state approves of, the freedom of protest has become irrelevant. Protests that aren’t disruptive and contrary to the desires of the powerful are really just rallies.
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 06:20 |
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Who ‘owns’ the interstate...and how much would shutting it down on a Saturday cost them? Are the owners also invested in the police force being targeted? And will the herd be thinned as a result? You never know...by someone’s grusome approach to mathematics, everyone involved might collectively profit in some way from this exercise going ahead...
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farscythe - makin da cawfee!
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 06:25 |
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ever noticed how the vast majority of people dont notice fucking anything that doesnt directly affect them?
i mean shit...ideally you could all gather in a nice empty field have a protest and people would notice
doesnt seem to be the world we live in
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i86hotdogs
> farscythe - makin da cawfee!
08/13/2020 at 06:31 |
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Personally, I think the majority of commuters that will be directly affected by this highway shut down will not have a change of heart from this march. If anything, may be counterproductive. Using your words, “bothering” and peaceful protest are on different planes.
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farscythe - makin da cawfee!
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 06:39 |
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meh..i dont think your wrong exactly...but i also dont think they are
at the end of the day...any protest that gets attention is going to piss people off
disrupting the commute just pisses people off more than average
and im okay with that but i understand why you arent
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i86hotdogs
> farscythe - makin da cawfee!
08/13/2020 at 06:42 |
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I kind of get the logic: those protesting are pissed about said issue and want change , therefore pissing someone else off will spark the same reaction.
Unfortunately, I don’t think it works out that way.
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I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 06:44 |
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People said the same thing when MLK lead marches on the highway. His demands were as radical if not more than those of the BLM movement.
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i86hotdogs
> I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
08/13/2020 at 06:48 |
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I wasn’t sure if highways were ever marched on in the past. I didn’t even look in to it. But this answers that.
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I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 06:54 |
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Oh yeah, all the time, economic disruption was the method of exacting change in the 60s. One leader’s quote, paraphrased: “If they won’t give us a seat at the table, we’ll have to knock the legs off.”
Merkin Muffley
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 07:24 |
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“Defu nd the police” ....
Sounds like the perfect prescription for Chicago's ills
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Merkin Muffley
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 07:29 |
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The murder stats in CheeCahGah speak for themselves. “Police brutality” is a concern everywhere but it’s hard to see how it makes the Top Five List of concerns for people of color in Chicago right now given:
Violent crime rates
Unemployment rates
COVID hitting city hard
Drug related crime resurgence
Gentrification displacing communities of color
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> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 09:00 |
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I am not down with blocking highways. At all.
I'll leave it at that.
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> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 09:18 |
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Call in the feds to crack some heads.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/13/chicago-looters-smash-ronald-mcdonald-house-with-sick-kids-inside/
Spanfeller is a twat
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 09:29 |
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Mexico City is used to mayor throughways being blocked by protestors... mostly, in my opinion, assholes with no real good cause and with a hidden political agenda, which is why whenever I hear “The ring road was blocked by X,Y,Z” I often scoff.
However, if it wasn’t for them blocking a mayor road, I would know nothing about their protest, and when a protest of a movement I respect blocks mayor roads, I am
positively delighted.
So, I guess my reaction is kind of hypocritical.
But I guess that the point is not only learning about what the protest is for, but also how organic and well organized it is. In the end, public space is everyone’s and though protests do cause damage to the general citizenry, it’s also an effective way for those in the citizenry who feel oppressed to show why they believe they’re being oppressed.
I firmly believe that no one
likes
to protest. It’s basically queueing but in the end you just have to go back home and you might be arrested, or mugged, or any number of idiotic things that happen in unorganized
mass gatherings. With that in mind, I don’t think anyone protests in vain.
It’s like, I dunno, a civilian filibuster.
fintail
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 12:40 |
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Eh, they did it in the 60s and 70s too. At least there’s a warning.
With the way shit has gone down over the past few decades, I am surprised more things aren’t burning.
Mercedes Streeter
> Merkin Muffley
08/13/2020 at 14:03 |
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In fairness, Chicago’s not even in the top ten for violent crime rates even though the media loves trotting it out as the prime example . Nearby Rockford has a far worse crime rate (near #1 according to FBI data) , as does Detroit to our east and Milwaukee to the north.
And I can see why police brutality is a “bigger” issue on the surface . You expect the police to save you from the gangs, not be worse than the gangs. A recent investigation found some 95% of excessive force complaints go without any sort of reprimand. Kinda makes people feel like the city’s biggest gangs are the cops. You know it’s bad when even the chief of police admits the department has practically zero credibility with the public.
Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com
> i86hotdogs
08/13/2020 at 16:20 |
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I live in a city that has poor road infrastructure so if you block a major thoroughfare you’ll likely create more opposition than support of your grievance.
At this point is there anyone in the 1st world that hasn’t been subjected by the BLM movement? It’s been going non-stop in the US news cycle for almost 3mo now. While I can understand
purposely inconvenient protests to bring awareness, it wanes some when it becomes more about support,
in which I believe a gathered and slightly less disrupting
static
rally would be more couth.
Judging by the title you like live near Chicago and I think it would be fair to say that a large moving demonstration succeeding what happened earlier this week is asking for a volatile situation by winding people up and giving the jackals cover to pounce from.
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i86hotdogs
> fintail
08/14/2020 at 05:05 |
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That’s what I am learning too. I wasn’t aware this was common then
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i86hotdogs
> Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com
08/14/2020 at 05:08 |
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I grew up outside Chicago, family still lives there. As mentioned before, I am in full support of protesting; especially for major injustices such as what has happened this year. I just personally think shutting down the busiest highway in the state will have a more negative response than positive.
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fintail
> i86hotdogs
08/14/2020 at 13:27 |
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The 1968-70 period had a lot more similar action than now - and it was justified then as well . Much worse police reaction, too.
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Merkin Muffley
> Mercedes Streeter
08/14/2020 at 17:10 |
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Cant argue there. Police unions really need to be reined in. Too much bad behavior goes unpunished